mahatma Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Dear members, I would like to discuss a case concerning pulmonary hemorrhage in a preterm of 26+2 weeks of gestational age. This little fellow had to be intubated at day 2 after CPAP due to increasing oxygen requirements and dyspnea, he received one dose of surfactant and responded pretty good. During very gentle ventilation he encountered a pulmonary hemorrhage and needed transfusion of erythrocytes and thrombocytes (min. 100/nl). He got vitamin K at the very beginning, blood clotting was unsuspicious, no signs of infection. We treated him with Terlipressin intratracheal and put him on high-frequency oscillation. Despite our efforts the bleeding recurred a couple of times. He still does´t need to much oxygen (about 30%) and HFO ventilation is still moderate. additionally he has a PDA of hemodynamic significance which I would like to start treating with indomethacin, but i am in doubt because of the enduring pulmonary bleeding. Any suggestions in this case??? Would you start treating the PDA?? Any other therapy options? Thanks! Mahatma
livesynapse Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Our protocol for pulmonary hemorrhage includes intratracheal epinephrine, an extra dose of surfactant, and like you did HFOV. In these cases, when there is active bleeding, we treat the PDA with paracetamol: 15 mg/k/dose every 6 hours for three to six days. Good luck! Patricia Here's a link J Pediatr. 2016 May 20. pii: S0022-3476(16)30176-7. doi: 10.1016/j.jpeds.2016.04.066. [Epub ahead of print] Paracetamol Accelerates Closure of the Ductus Arteriosus after Premature Birth: A Randomized Trial. Härkin P1, Härmä A1, Aikio O2, Valkama M1, Leskinen M1, Saarela T1, Hallman M1.
rehman_naveed Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 What is the Day of life now?how is the XR looks like ? I would treat with indomethacin before it is too late and we are left only with surgical closure .
Fayrouz Essawi Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Significant PDA need closure so use paracetamol instead of indomethacin in this case with pulm. Hge.also you did right with HFO but also you need to check bleeding profile and platelete in order to give plasma or platelete If you need to control pulm hge.
Cat Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 Greetings from Ecuador. We use paracetamol protocol to close de PDA instead of indometacin (15 mg/k/dose every 6 hours for three days). Also the use of epineprine for the pulmonary hemorrage. My suggestion is to add a new dosis from Vitamin K1 IV and check For Pulmonary hypertension may be you need sildenafil. Atte Cat
yuriyko Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 I agree with paracetamol and epinephrine suggested. Additionally, pulmonary hemorrhage may be evaluated in some cases as a high degree of congestive heart insufficiency. Consider fluid restriction, furasemid and probably inotropes. This may help PDA to close as well. To stop bleeding sometimes we have to rise mean airway pressure (of course carefully in such a tiny baby). If the clotting process is disturbed we use plasma because it works immediately. Wish you success.
emad shatla Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 In our unit we are using paracetamol in dose 10-15 mg every 6-8 hours for 3 days HFO can be used or you can increase PEEP TO 6-7 intratracheal adrenalin can be used FFP can be used cover of antibiotics surfactant can be used dr Emad Shatla senior consultant neonataolgy MD/ MRCPCH
Ghodstehrani Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 In my unit I use daily FFP for at least three days, frequent doses of IT epinephrine and if plt more than 50000 and not severe hemorrhage a full course of Ibuprofen. dr Ghodstehrani senior specialist neonatologist Iranian hospital Dubai
mghabour Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 This is likely hemorrhagic pulmonary edema that follows significant PDA. Symptomatic support is high PEEP(like pressing on a bleeding point). Specific therapy is closing it or al least reducing its size, medically with Indomethacin. or ligating it surgically. Those used to die in the 90s. Good job
mahatma Posted May 30, 2016 Author Posted May 30, 2016 Dear colleagues, thanks for all this useful information. that´s what this board is for, I really appreciate this. He is still stable on ventilation, although pulmonary bleeding happens once or twice a day, but it´s not fatal, no transfusion or red cells necessary, so i also think this is most likely due to pulmonary edema. That´s why we decided to close the PDA with Ibuprofen now. hope this helps. HFO and intratracheal vasoconstrictors didn´t.
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