May 16, 200619 yr comment_14 Gastric empying at birth: good or bad practice? My opinion is that it is equivalent to throw away the first reserve of feed. Mirko Spacapan NICU Udine ITALY Send Sticky Note
May 19, 200619 yr Dear Mirko, to my opinion there is no general need in doing so, i consider the trauma by unneccesary suction higher than the theoretical benefit of it. You might just get vagal stimulation. Our practice at the Karolinska Hospital is no suction if there is no special need for it. Alexander Rakow Karolinska Hospital Dep. of Neonataology
May 23, 200619 yr Dear Mirko: Here in Mexico, there is a routine to make a gastric lavage at born,personally I think there is no reason to do it, some neonates that swallowed a regular amount of maternal blood, probably have some intolerance feeding at the begining, but are very few, so in general I consider that this practice have no reason to do it
August 15, 200619 yr comment_71 Hello ,I am a NICU RN working a neonatologist that use only the bulb suction so most of the babies are having trouble feeding or need gastric lavage. I n my opinion if the first suction was done deeply so no need for routine gastric lavage. RN-NICU Send Sticky Note
September 11, 200619 yr hi, in Guatemala, at Roosevelt Hospital specialy, there is a routine to make a gastric lavage at born, because you can made the diagnosis esophageal atresia, duodenale atresia, coanal nasal atresia.
September 23, 200619 yr No need unless the infant is vomiting whether there is MSL or not. Regards K P Sanghvi
November 1, 200619 yr In our unit at naval hosp Karachi Pakistan,we only do gastric lavage if baby is vomiting repeatedly or has coffee ground aspirate but not as a routine.I consider routine lavages as unneccessary and could potentially lead to vagal stimulation.
November 2, 200619 yr comment_177 We are doing gastric lavage only when we know about bloody amniotic fluid and the baby is at risk of aspirating the bloody amniotic fluid. I think ,routinly it's not needed ,because it can make vagal stimulation.Don' foget even more serious complication such as perforation. Send Sticky Note
November 2, 200619 yr gastric lavage should not be done as a routine care. The newborn usually will tell you if he is gonna need one...
November 3, 200619 yr In our unit routine gastric suction is not recommended. However if there is MSAF we do recommend it. Please look at the following related refernces: Anand KJS, Runeson B, Jacobson B. Gastric suction at birth associated with long-term risk for functional intestinal disorders in later life. J Pediatr 2004;144:449-54. Conklin LS, Perlman JM, Wyckoff MH. Gastric suction at birth. J Pediatr. 2005 Jan;146(1):152-3; author reply 153. nand KJ, Jacobson B, Hall RW. Gastric suction at birth: not an innocent bystander.J Pediatr. 2004 Nov;145(5):714; Di Lorenzo C, Saps M. Gastric suction in newborns: guilty as charged or innocent bystander? J Pediatr. 2004 Apr;144(4):417-20. Regards
January 12, 200718 yr Routing suctioning isn't necessary in most cases. We insert og tubes to open drain for decompressiong and only suction if infant is spitting and choking on mucous or swallowed blood.
March 1, 200718 yr comment_377 Hi all, What is your opinion about gastric scution after meconium aspiration. Is it a good parctice or do they have different views. We have found decreased frequency of vomiting or feeding problems after suctioning. BBMT Send Sticky Note
May 21, 200718 yr comment_571 Our practice at the NMC of Georgia perinatal centre is no suction if there is no special need for it. Send Sticky Note
June 4, 200718 yr comment_585 I believe Drs. Narchi and Kulaylat published a study where they showed that this practice is not necessary. Narchi H, Kulaylat N.Is gastric lavage needed in neonates with meconium-stained amniotic fluid? Eur J Pediatr. 1999 Apr;158(4):315-7. Velaphi S, Vidyasagar D. Intrapartum and postdelivery management of infants born to mothers with meconium-stained amniotic fluid: evidence-based recommendations.Clin Perinatol. 2006 Mar;33(1):29-42, v-vi. Review. Oussama Itani, MD;FAAP;FACN Clinical Associate Professor of Pediatrics and Human Development- Michigan State University & Kalamazoo Center for Medical Studies Director of Neonatology Borgess Medical Center 1521 Gull Road Kalamazoo, MI 49048 Phone: (269)-226-5778 Fax: (269)-226-5998 email: oussama@pol.net Send Sticky Note
July 13, 200817 yr No doubt it's bad. How can we welcome some one to this world by putting a plastic tube in his mouth or nose when it's not indicated. I think it's more dangerous and harmful than beneficial. Most of the normal deliveries which are not attainded by qualified medical practitioners, nothing is done in such babies. These babies are given straight way to mother for feeding and they go home after three day.
August 30, 200817 yr In our hospital we routinely do gastric lavage in those newborn who need NICU admission because most of them are sick and there are chances of aspiration. Also it rule out choanal atresia,TEF and esophageal atresia. However we do not do this in well newborns.
August 31, 200817 yr Routine gastric lavage is unnecessary we do it only in case of ceasarean sections where there is thick pasty meconium to prevent aspiration after regurgitation. Do you do the same? Or some of us believe in generalisation & not sure of preventive medicine?
September 30, 200817 yr comment_1495 It is a very good practise and I have done it for over 30 yrs. It not only empties the stomach but helps you pickup oesophageal atresia and upper GI obstruction right at birth. Gastric aspirates of >20-25 ml are highly suggestive on upper GI obstruction Edited September 30, 200817 yr by devinder chopra required by your system Send Sticky Note
October 19, 200817 yr comment_1522 OF COURSE ,IT'S NOT A ROUTINE,ONLY ON ANTICIPATING EA OR TEF IN CASE OF POLY- HYDRAMNIOS,OR IN THICK MECONIUM OR IN TOO MUCH SWAALLOWED MATERNAL BLOOD& FOR GASTRIC DECOMPRESSION IN SOME CASES LIKE CDH Send Sticky Note
January 11, 201015 yr comment_2791 Routine gastric lavage is unnecessary we do it only in case of ceasarean sections where there is thick pasty meconium to prevent aspiration after regurgitation. Do you do the same? Or some of us believe in generalisation & not sure of preventive medicine? Gastric emptying is not required at birth.The reason we put a tube in is to rule out TOF but we dont lavage the contents.The calories in Gastric aspirate work as initial energy for the newborn.If baby cries well at birth no need to do even suction. Send Sticky Note
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