Carlos Delgado Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Background: Neonatal resuscitation and positive pressure ventilation. Decision node: Oxygen concentration: 21%... 40% ... 100% Question: which one is better, under what circumstances? Carlos DELGADO Pediatrician Neonatologist Instituto Nacional de Salud del Niño Lima PERU
Stefan Johansson Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 There's a revision in pipeline, of the Swedish guidelines on resuscitation. There were quite a lot of discussion regarding the evidence of using O2 immediately after birth, at the workshop discussing this revision. The data from Saugstads group in Norway and others would suggest that room air would be fine, but practises vary a lot. I'd reckon our new (Swedish) guidelines will be suggesting less/no extra oxygen from the start of the resuscitation, but vaguely suggest that oxygen may me added/increased later during the resuscitation. Now, while awaiting the new guidelines we use 40% in our unit. PS. I added a poll to this discussion. DS. 1
Guest Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Do the swedish guidlines differ from the ILCOR guidance?
Stefan Johansson Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Do the swedish guidlines differ from the ILCOR guidance? Well, I don't think the new guidelines will differ at any major points. The conclusion of the workshop last year was that the (Swedish) working group needed to await the ILCOR report.
Guest Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 The new guidlines do not offer any clear guidance re: use of oxygen. The latest version of the UK guidelines will state that there is no clear evidence for which oxygen concentration to use- so it is a personal choice where to start but increase fio2 if no improvement. Sounds like they are sitting on the fence on that one. Andrew Kapetanakis University Hospital London
Stefan Johansson Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 Dear Andrew, you're absolutely right that the latest ILCOR document gives no strict guidelines regarding O2 during resuscitation, although ILCOR explicitely say that room air could be used at the initiation of resuscitation (see quoted section below). I'd guess the new upcoming Swedish guidelines will contain similar statements as to the British recommendation you refer to, ie joining at the same fence! ******* From the ILCOR report: "Although the standard approach to resuscitation is to use 100% oxygen, it is reasonable to begin resuscitation with an oxygen concentration of less than 100% or to start with no supplementary oxygen (ie, start with room air). If the clinician begins resuscitation with room air, it is recommended that supplementary oxygen be available to use if there is no appreciable improvement within 90 seconds after birth. In situations where supplementary oxygen is not readily available, positive-pressure ventilation should be administered with room air."
Audrius Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 Dear Andrew, Would you be so kind to explain a little bit wider your phrase "it is a personal choice where to start but increase fio2 if no improvement''. I liked it very much, but I am not sure of the same meaning with your vision and mine. Thank you. Comments of other colleagues are also welcome. Audrius Kaunas Medical University Hospital, Lithuania
sjoher Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 I usually start my resuscitation with 50% and if baby doesnot response to it than increase to 100%.
livia_sibiu@yahoo.com Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 start with 21%, add oxygen if no response in 60 -90 sec Livia Ognean, Sibiu, Romania
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