Schumz Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Dear friends, I have never been able to undersatnd the fluid balance calculation in a neonate:confused:...When do we say positive balanve and when negative and what are the implications and what do we do to manage this. eg If a neonate is +/-ve 100mls but satble other wise with a urine output of >1ml/kg/hr I would appreciate any kind of input to explain this to me in detail thanks for your help.
Stefan Johansson Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Hi! Well, I think I get the theory but know that this can be tricky IRL , therefore I look at more than just a pos/neg figure of fluid balance. Before deciding about feeding, infusions, diuretics etc-etc. I think you already know this, the balance is (fluids in)-(fluids out). Usually we know how we feed and infuse, but the fluid losses (perspiratio, evaporation, urine, feces) can be difficult to assess as a precise number. Of course, the balance has some impact, but I also try to assess other clinical signs (edema), the weight, ultrasound (such as contractility, venous filling in critically) etc as well. In addition, even a positive fluid balance may not mean an increased cardiovascular load, since fluids commonly enter the extravascular/interstitial space, for example in very sick infants. Fluid management in the NICU, a topic for a book!
feraszaman Posted December 7, 2010 Posted December 7, 2010 Hi! Well, I think I get the theory but know that this can be tricky IRL , therefore I look at more than just a pos/neg figure of fluid balance. Before deciding about feeding, infusions, diuretics etc-etc. I think you already know this, the balance is (fluids in)-(fluids out). Usually we know how we feed and infuse, but the fluid losses (perspiratio, evaporation, urine, feces) can be difficult to assess as a precise number. Of course, the balance has some impact, but I also try to assess other clinical signs (edema), the weight, ultrasound (such as contractility, venous filling in critically) etc as well. In addition, even a positive fluid balance may not mean an increased cardiovascular load, since fluids commonly enter the extravascular/interstitial space, for example in very sick infants. Fluid management in the NICU, a topic for a book! You are absolutely right! Although you may think it's as easy as 1+1=2 .. unfortunately , we only see the tip of the iceberg. In other words, Urine output! Kind regards
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